For many years it was believed that the first series was composed of StarCraft creator Gene Roddenberry was lieutenant. However, new research from the Roddenberry Entertainment Podcast Mission Log: Genetics It was revealed that the first series Gene created was actually wrangler.
Genealogy Episode 58″wrangler,” is now available wherever you listen to podcasts. To mark the occasion, Comics Beat spoke with John Champion and Eugene “Rod” Roddenberry Learn more about this discovery and how it affects fans of Gene and his work.
This interview has been edited for clarity and length.
AVERY KAPLAN: When you learn wrangler In Gene’s work?
John Champion: This was a total surprise. Everything we’d seen before this was about the career trajectory we already knew, which was to write for other people and then create lieutenant. Shortly after the cancellation, he came up with StarCraft.
So when looking through the document, it was surprising to see the words “Creator.” It leads us into this great, very satisfying study, trying to reveal it in as much detail as possible.
Eugene “Rod” Roddenberry: We have several podcasts, one of which is Trek Archives. My parents did a great job of keeping files on a lot of different things and it was great to browse through them.
But John and Larry Nemesek A chance to actually experience these things. Thanks to those who dug out these files. John, who found this document first?
champion: it’s me and Holly Amosour archivist. This actually just collects all the preStarCraft Material Genealogy. After handing these materials over to Earl Greenwho is the co-host Genealogyhe responded to us and said, “Have you seen page two of this pilot?”
Because we’ve seen everything else that says “Written by Gene Roddenberry.” But what we don’t really notice is “being created.” This led to us trying to reshape all the other material available to try and put the story of the show together. Because it doesn’t appear in alpha memory, it doesn’t appear David AlexanderBiography of Gene. Sadly, IMDb is incomplete here.
So we have to do everything else: go to Los Angeles Times Archives, going through our own archives thoroughly and piecing together everything we could find and trying to figure out, “Why is this missing from the official story?”
These are the key people involved. We really have to thank Holly for gathering the material and Earl for identifying it and then the team working hard to put it into context, which is really what we’ve been missing.
Roddenberry: My father was like any other writer: he wrote a lot but it never worked out, or wasn’t good—whatever the case may be. I think this might just be another one of those.
But the fact is that it aired, even briefly, and was the first TV show my dad ever created. This seems very important.
Kaplan: I’m curious if you could describe, out of context, how you felt. wrangler In a vacuum?
Roddenberry: I can tell you that when I first saw it with John, we went to UCLA and watched the DVD they had. It’s a strange episode indeed to load up the first DVD and start where we started. I think we started in the middle, which shows Pitcairn being rough with a woman and treating her differently than how my father is usually portrayed. StarCraft figure.
I know I said “StarCraft,” but I would say that the characters my dad wrote on other shows were always moral and treated people equally and did have a more worldly perspective. This character in this episode – we later find out the details were a ruse – roughs her up and says, “Oh, like a woman, go back to the kitchen.” He doesn’t say that, but something like words. This really shocked me.
Jumping to your main question here, as we continued to watch more episodes and really started to understand the show, I was really surprised to see my dad’s writing style in these characters.
Because you’ll see parts of other characters he wrote in Pitcairn. It’s 100% his creation, or at least the character, that’s for sure. Because you’ll see: there’s Kirk, there’s Picard. There are a lot of other characters, it’s just my dad’s writing style.
champion: My initial impression of it was that it was very much a product of its time. It just so happened that there were already a lot of Westerns on the air at the time, and one might have felt that the stories were already done and mined.
But anyway, as a fan of old-school television, if I try to isolate the Roddenberry connection here, I’m really attracted to the technical qualities of it. Because it was very difficult to record at that time, but they did it.
When the show is good, it’s very good. The episode Rod just described wasn’t that great…these moments definitely exist in the series.
Roddenberry: That’s not one of the better ones. You have to see the whole thing to really understand what’s going on.
champion: But overall, for someone who’s watched a fair amount of westerns and just appreciates a good TV story, this works. While it doesn’t break a lot of new ground, you can definitely see Gene shaping the kind of little storytelling moments he would later do.
Kaplan: As discussed in this episode, anyone can visit UCLA and watch wrangler (go through through formal channels). Would you recommend this to fans of Gene’s work?
Roddenberry: Gene Roddenberry Fans, Not Just StarCraft…and frankly, anyone who likes A western or a good drama of the time. Or who is a fan of Gene Roddenberry’s writing style. Absolutely.
if you are a pure person StarCraft Fans, love sci-fi and Kirk elements, I don’t want to say no…but I don’t think it’s going to appeal to you unless you’re into the genre or you’re a die-hard Gene Roddenberry fan.
champion: I don’t agree with this. This requires some historical background. Maybe you’re already an old-school TV geek…I am anyway, so this helps.
But if you’re a perfectionist about Gene’s specific work, it would be nice to be able to look at it and fill in the little gap between the late 50’s and early 60’s.
Kaplan: John, I’m curious what your research process is like for a topic like this wrangler. When obvious sources such as Star Wars Creator: The Authorized Biography of Gene Roddenberry If you don’t meet the requirements, where do you turn first?
champion: There’s a bit of a shotgun approach. Just looking for any evidence I can get from it. So, our own archives in the office: very helpful. I actually bought an antique tv guides, thanks to Rod and the corporate budget. Vintage press materials that I could find. UCLA Archives. Then browse retro issues Los Angeles Times. And trying to connect all those dots.
What’s interesting and important to us is that we have the pilot script from 1959. irrelevant wranglerthere is an interview with Gene Los Angeles Times From the early 1960s, he began talking about writing for the television landscape, censorship, and more. There happens to be a line that says: “The creator wrangler“.
So luckily little accidents like this allowed us to complete the painting. And then we went a little bit beyond that and tried to find out what we could wranglerstar Jason Eversas well as guest stars. There are a lot of guest stars, by the way, and a lot of other overlapping parts. StarCraftstarting a few years ago.
Kaplan: I’m not sure how long ago Genealogy The episode has been recorded, but I do want to ask for your current thoughts on why wrangler Seems Buried by Gene, when (according to you) was it a usable and historic TV show?
Roddenberry: That’s the problem. I can only speculate that like anyone in any industry, especially in Hollywood (both then and now), you want to look your best. I think lieutenant It’s a bigger, more popular show; it’s more mainstream.
So I think when I say, “I’m Gene Roddenberry, look at my work,” lieutenant More suitable than mold wrangler. wrangler In a way, it seems experimental in terms of the film and so on. But the truth is, I’m just guessing. I hope there’s still some juicy gossip that I know of. But I think between the two, he chose lieutenant Because it suited the industry at the time.
champion: I think it’s all fair. If you look at Gene’s work at the time, you’ll see that there were two very big shows going on at the same time: Have a gun – can travel and then lieutenant.
even though Have a gun Not Gene’s show, he wrote a lot for it and really developed the character of Paladin. then you compare lieutenantwhich is also a comparison wrangler. As Rod said, he probably wanted to do his best.
Also, when I think about the context, wrangler Is a summer replacement series. Therefore it has a short shelf life. The best of all possible outcomes is that it will be a huge success within the six or seven weeks it airs, and the network will come back next year and say, “Oh no, we want more, maybe we” Will give you a full season next time. But this almost never happens.
So our expectation is that no one will see this outside of the initial run. Regardless, a show with such a short shelf life won’t be rerun. So maybe he just thought, “It’s going to be forgotten anyway, so I don’t need to brag about a show that people can’t watch.”
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